For the few 200-300 searches I see a day looking to fix an install of Tiny7, I have some information that is going to help you. Help you a whole lot. You need to hear (read this) because the answer is right in front of you but you somehow just can not see it.
Windows 7 is an operating system created by Microsoft.
Tiny7 is not.
Tiny 7 is a copy of windows 7 that has had so much stuff stripped out of it, you get a faster running machine because there are a whole lot less resources being used by the typical running software.
Some things you install may not work because the software that it depends on, will not be on the machine. So you have to search for that software on the internet and get it installed so your machine can run the process you are needing. Trust that this software has a potential of making your computer a tad bit slower.
On that note. Windows Tiny 7, is not a full legal version to install and run as a computer. The guy that distributes the software, Makes it clear that he is just trying to see how little of processes he can make it to before the operating system is none functional. His goal is to run the operating system with as few resources and processes as possible. He is uploading the software for you to look at what he did, and then give him ideas as to what to do next. He has no intentions of you making this your primary operating system on your primary computer. I think that is why he stopped working on the project after tiny vista was fully complete.
On that note. DO NOT try and register tiny7. That is not what he intended for you to do. DO NOT try and get updates to Tiny 7. It will check with WGA (windows Genuine Advantage), see it is a pirated copy of windows, and then it will lock you down. You will then be locked out of your own computer, simply because you have not been logical.
You can change the cd key of the install of your copy of tiny 7 by just calling Microsoft’s hot line. Do not bother with doing the voice recognition thing, it is frustrating . I just yell into the phone “blabble zabble deepledorf” repeatedly while crackling plastic wrap next to the mic until a human gets on the phone. Works like magic. Tell them what ever it takes to prove that you are not out to rip anyone off and you just like the version you have and would like to register it with a new key. It will work. be persistent and insistent that it is the best operating system you have ever used and is better than any other operating system Microsoft offers.
There are tons of ways around WGA. But they always get stopped and Microsoft fixes those tricks. Really I have no idea why you would download an operating system from a stranger and then worry about security patches. In 12 years only one single service pack that Microsoft distributed didn’t slow your computer down more than it already was. In fact service pack 3 on Windows xp, made most computers faster. Then patches that came later, slowed them all right back down.
Ignore the fear mongers that tell you some virus is in the wild and without some Service pack, your dog’s fur will fall out. Don’t believe them when they say the latest service pack will make my computer faster. It’s a trap.
The right thing to do is just out right buy windows 7. You can get the OEM version of Windows 7 at less than half cost.
Or quit trying to register something you know is not legal.
Quit trying to patch something you have no rights patching.
and if your machine has you locked out, lol .. NEWBY.
Epic post.
Thank you.
I have nothing intelligent to say.
What a bunch of nonsense engrish. Did you even try reading your text? Geez.
Why yes. Yes I have read this. Quite a few times. Way to stay on topic newb.
Sorry I couldn’t help you get updates for tiny 7. Maybe you should call Microsoft? It’s pretty quick, they know what they are doing.
There is a lot of false information in your post. Basically, most of what you’ve said. If you register for SnipeR’s Redemption Network, you can get information straight from eXPerience himself. He stopped working on these after Tiny7 Rev01 because, in his own words:
“PS people asking about a new Tiny7… I used to live a lot more comfortably than I am right now and modding Windows used to be a lot more possible. These days I have not got a pot to piss in. Modding Windows is one thing but not knowing where your next meal is coming from is another. ”
He didn’t make these for himself and share them with everyone so they can give him “ideas”. I don’t know why believe that. In fact, he get a little agitated with the “ideas” that people offer to add this, remove that, etc. (i.e. acting ungrateful)
As far as Windows Updates go- I use Tiny7 on a few computers, they get updates fine. There’s an activator hack included in the install, it activates during install automatically. I’ve been receiving updates for 2 years now. There is ONE update you need to stay away from, though. It checks for activation hacks and will probably find any hack that has been used. All you have to do is manually select updates you want to install, and don’t install that one. In fact, hide it from the list. I tried to install SP1 on 1 machine with Tiny7 and it kept failing. I’m not sure if it was because of Tiny7 or that machine or what, but it still gets other updates just fine. If, after a fresh install, you have trouble getting updates for the first time, search for and download the most recent “Windows Update Readiness Tool” and install that. As you attempt to get updates the first few times, you’ll have several failed attempts/failed installs. It takes roughly a day (2 at most) of trying to install updates a few times before they actually start to work, and after that you shouldn’t get any failures anymore.
**** From TruXter****
You must not have been using Tiny through very many versions. The original Tiny was just to see how stripped down he could get it… be it for an old pc or not, he wanted to see how stripped down it could get.
He put it up for people to see how it works and get input. but he ran into trolls….. “yeah can you ad call of duty” or some stupid stuff that really shouldn’t be in what he was doing. He even wrote this in the read me file of one of the distros he did and it was in the TPB thread where people explained this to the people who followed and flooded TPB with requests. He even chimed in once and said “yeah I don’t do request anymore”
I never said you can’t register it. I even show you how to register it.
and yes you can get updates… like I said… and they do try and stop it by making one update, crash the software… like I said and like you said in rebuttal..
Jeese I see why he stopped helping..
and yes I left your post up here because it is helpful, no matter how wrong or right the whole idea of a page like this is… notice, there aren’t many on the web that help people with this, without being illegal, or making you register to see the content.. and I really have to chose my words wisely when doing this. and yes people have posted links that I have to forbid, because I will not be held liable for any illegal activity.
And yes I believe I registered in 09 and saw his post that he has no interest in finishing tiny7 and saw no point in finishing it, and that he wanted to focus his attention on Vista. Then months later he released another version of tiny vista.
He needs to work for Microsoft, because he knows what we want with an os. With what they show in previews of code name Windows 8, they haven’t a clue.
I would love to see him get a hold of windows 95 and do something super creative, and then sell the idea to microsoft.
But yeah right.
i’m sorry but this is b/s,
1. you can register and it work fantastically… Oh yeah,,, TruXter says this up there if I learned how to read.
2. it is legal because the copy of windows used doesn’t need a licence key. And neither does the Diamond ring the local Crack head held me at gun point for. It’s only stolen if it has a key.
3. The guy who programmed tiny xp, vista amp; 7 Died you insensitive %^&* because you said all that mean up there… that isn’t really there and I’m a bipolar troll.
4. he set out to make sure that old pc’s got a second chance and they didn’t just get thown in the local tip.ok…
5. i knew the guy he told me all the facts not your lies! and I am a dragon.
Rant over! RIP eXPerience
tiny 7 was not really finnished properly cause he died thats why some times it dosen’t work but it should work. just look at tinyxp rev 10 it works superbly!
rev 11 wasn’t finished properly either .
Exper1ence did not die.
its was my step dad who made tiny xp and 7 he was eXPerince he tault me all i know and showed me how to shrink a os and im only 12 i along with him made tiny 7 rev 2 it was neve finished by him but me he died a few weeks ago his name was gavin anderson
It?
So, you are saying that exper1ence is from the united kingdom?
yes, eXPerience was from the UK. He had a computer repair business in the highlands of Scotland. He passed away suddenly two months ago, I was his fiancée. What computerJESUS! and my son have said in previous posts is all correct, rev 2 was never finished so tiny 7 will always remain a work in progress.
so you looked at a map and seen that I was right and had to remove both your last post and my reply haha
****Yes I did****
My mistake
TruXter
I just have to wonder, if he was around, could he work on windows 95 and strip out the crap, and then put in the goods, like 7 has and make a small fast sleek o/s.
I mean a new challenge is what keeps us sane.
For years I worked with a hand full of people who were doing something similar. but we all got lives and the project took so long, it’s dead in the water.. probably stored on a whopping 10 gig hard drive somewhere in my closet.
We never made it to DDR let alone ddr2 or ddr3. We stopped at Pentium 3 release. had to start completely over if wanted to update more. I just have to wonder what a 128 mb operating system would feel like on an 8 core machine.
I am not able to verify or dismiss the claim that eXPer1ence has passed on. Either he will have to come here and prove he is him, or very little can be done to prove he is gone.
For the most part, we can all assume that eXPer1ence is unable or unwilling to work on this project more.
Intall some Linux distro and you’ll understand that windows sucks. (You’ll also find out how a 128mb OS feels on a 8 core :D)
Tiny7 is great for gaming. Its uses less resources so the games run smoother.
Tiny7Windows shouldn’t be your primary OS.LOL. Clever
I love Tiny 7.Its awesome….regards to Experiance….if any1 can help me …plz do…i am just missing 2things from windows 7…plz if any1 can help me to get it back plz do…the album art of music files is not displaying in windows explorer i tried many ways to get it back…if any1 can help me get it back plz do…and next is everytime i make or rename a newfolder its ask for clicking try again…. any solutions???but hats of to the hard work behind tiny…love it :)…
I usually just try again, or try and build the file or folder in another directory and cut and paste it where I need the file/folder. Then again, I haven’t used tiny 7 in over a year.
Music folder didn’t display for me either. Lead to some weird directory stuff. What I did was find the music folder, creat a shortcut, and then paste it where I wanted to see it.
Need some help. Been running Tiny 7 since its release, now on rev2. I stumbled across a forum/blog once in the late hours on my iphone when I was having a hard time sleeping and read that he provided instructions on how to enable some/most/all things that was stripped out to make it lightweight. But for the life of me, I can not find that site. If anyone here knows it, couldyou please post a link to it, or admin please emailme the link, I would appreciate it.
My system consists of(Acer Aspire One ZG5):
Jolicloud
Tiny 7 r2
Ubuntu 11.04
Thanks
Can Tiny7 run dual monitors? If so how?
yes. the settings will be in the tools section of your display adapters software.
look by your clock, there should be a shortcut.
I have mixed thoughts on your article, you do make some good points mate but there are a few that are wrong depending how you look at it.!
An average pc user having a go at an install using Tiny7 is a bad idea, as you pointed out, they would be better buying 7.
Like many, i like to customize my 7 install using rt7lite as i usually do a clean install every 18 months so i was curious about Tiny7.
So i banged it one of my HD’s and am dual booting with 7 pro.
I keep a close eye on whats running and keep 7 as trim as i can but when a installed tiny7 a noticed a big performance jump.
Apart from less processes running it boots and shuts down quicker and i found it to be faster than XP, its the only version of 7 that can match XP for performance.
I was reluctant to leave XP as SP3 was pretty stable and trim compared to the full version of 7.
What pi**%$ me off is this constant need to keep on top of 7 in order to stop it going into overbloat.
I know 7 is regarded as a good operating system but i think MS pulled of the biggest scam on the planet and it looks like they took a leaf out of Mr eXperience’s book.
Ripping out messenger and mail and all the other non essential programs and making it a free download in live essentials saved much space and memory.
Do some fancy registry tweaks to make it feel more snappy, redesign a new taskbar and make it more simple to use and finally a lick of paint and here is a new operating system..!
7 is just Vista on a fitness plan and when you add the programs that Vista had included, you won’t notice a lot of difference between 7 and Vista SP2.
But you try running 7 on 1gb of ram, its painful, wind erosion is quicker but Tiny7 and XP SP3 will run just fine.
My point is that there is a place for Tiny7 and with a little effort using Google you can get yourself a version of 7 that will run well on old hardware, something that MS failed or didn’t want to do.
I did have a few problems with programs that required netframe 3.5 on Tiny7.
Some programs didn’t recognize it but i soon found a quick fix, i used the portable versions of them which made it even quicker.
Installing the system readiness tool is a must as others have stated as is manual install of updates.
Since i installed 7 i have been using a certain popular activator and it hasn’t put a foot wrong and passes validation easily.
If the dreaded WGA gets installed a simple tool will remove it.
To say that activators and hacks will always fail is just plain wrong.!
Windows are heavily “restricted” on how to check your pc, its the price they pay for having 90% market share.
The truth is MS know that if people want Windows free, they will get it with a little effort.
I will pay for Windows as i did for XP when MS can show me genuine reasons for doing so.
A bloated heavy system with average features and new eye candy, wont have me reaching for my wallet and from what ive seen, Windows 8 looks like a lemon and one to avoid.
With the growing change in the market it looks to me like 7 could be MS’s last bloated, one size fits all operating system..
Long live Tiny7…..
Excellent response. thanks for the self censoring.
You have valid points.
Please understand, my motive of not teaching people how to pirate was my main focus.
I like having a site that stays in search engines.. lol Most of it was frustration due to specific searches and questions I get.
Activators don’t always fail.
They eventually get”bug fixed” out
My issue with 8 is the whole cloud thing.
While comcast is putting a cap on your monthly downloads (mine is at 250) I currently move about 10-11 gigs in a week or two, just working on websites and gaming. Imagine what will happen when all of my stuff is on the cloud. 250 gigs will be nothing.
Ah,a see where your coming from now truXter, a haven’t had a chance yet to look around the site mate and i think i probably picked the article up wrong so thanks for clearing it up.
I can see your issues with the cloud and Windows 8, i know the preview version is far from what to expect but it does look like a potential car crash!
MS struggle to get the basics right and they are caught in the headlights between the desktop and the cloud.
Can MS pull a rabbit out the hat and map their OS over both to produce a product that people will want?
You got any predictions mate?
win 8 will try and be what they see the new trend is. ap like programs.
cartoony bubbly look,
simplified.
not for me though… i don’t want it.
This: “could he work on windows 95 and strip out the crap, and then put in the goods, like 7 has and make a small fast sleek o/s.”
… makes me think this:
“For years I worked with a hand full of people who were doing something similar. … I just have to wonder what a 128 mb operating system would feel like on an 8 core machine.”
… is a load of horsec**p and if you have to ask why it just proves my point.
You’re coming across as someone who is pretending to have had a lot of experience with Windows and computing generally frankly with the whole dreaming about things that you think sound cool but aren’t practical in reality. Again if you have to ask why it won’t work …
And even if it did you sound like someone who never used a DOS based version of Windows to start with and so cannot recall the terrible stability issues that came with running 32bit shell on 16bit kernel …
And as for “verifying exper1ence’s existence on this mortal plain” etc – I’m assuming you know how to open a txt file here – don’t you think his forum which is listed in the readmes for Tiny 7 would be a good place to start?
Wow.. Typical with people in I.T. . Newer is always better and anyone who thinks out of their box is always wrong.
Think what you want to.
I’m fine with you thinking that your knowledge is the only.
Yes I have used an operating system that was reliant on dos. for quite some time. been a while since anything functioned with it (anything new that is) so it has been obsoleted.
So when you come back and play the quiz game (as all “I’m superior knowledge man” tech people do) I will not be willing to play along. Simply because I have grey mattered more information than what is useful today.
“I just have to wonder what a 128 mb operating system would feel like on an 8 core machine.”
Other than the fact that size has no bearing on how fast an OS is other than boot time and only in certain situations (eg. increasing CPU speed on Windows kernel 6.x.xx leads to faster boot times than increasing storage I/O) Windows 95 and any DOS based program cannot do SMP processing. In other words it would only be able to use 1 core no matter what.
Granted that 1 core it would run on with todays CPU is many times more powerful than anything from the Win95 era.
Where the size matters.Is the bloatware that has been bundled since xp. Sure windows 95 had it’s compuserve or aol bundled, but that is dwarfed by just the amount of resources used to run one single widget on your computer in windows 7… I forget, is it called a widget? who cares.. I know you could do the same thing with 95/98/xp if you just made a desktop toolbar. Sure it was uglier, but the same.
There were many operations removed once dos was “demoted” to only CMD..
It’s the dumming down with bloated shiny useless features, being pawned off as new innovative ideas. Ideas that force you to buy better hardware for these features that no one used before anyway.
Don’t believe me?
This is a tiny 7 thread….
of course win 95 won’t run a six processor. They didn’t exist. What’s missing?
The operating system ran on 200mb processors and less. Less than 100mb ram. That’s the part where size matters. There is no bloated candy buttons.
In many industries, there are hobbyists, who actually begin a career of doing what is called a “retro-fit”. putting a ford 351 Cleveland in a 1982 mazda rx7. etc.
Sometimes you just have to ask “what can be done to get what I want?”
Now, I don’t claim to be anything more than a hobbyist. Someone who hate patches. and updates because every now and again, you lose functions. I used progman all the way till xp patch 2 came out disabled program manager. I used to boot to progman with a registry edit, disabling explorer.exe, just so I could preserve my resources. remember black viper’s boot tweak? Was golden.
This is the same reason why I tried tiny 7. To save resources.
Sure. Dos focused operating systems were clunky. Look how fast/super slow the processors were back then.
And I quote the latest post from Exper1ence is after the so called claims of his death.
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Trusted eXPer1ence at 2011-10-24 00:12 CET:
I don’t understand why he suggested that instead of editing the boot ini
And this is where you put the other partition/drive
i was looking up t2s for t7 found this
site
i have used txp and still use the toolkits
t7 runs great 4 me
but it saddens me 2 hear of the eXPer1ence
passing
this reminds me of watchin my father learn to program fortran ,pascal & cobal 1,2,3,& 4
on the kitchen table with boooks checked out from the local library with a slide rule & a 11 function calaculator. borrowed my basic book too.
time passes only in digital does time stand still
If you look on TPB for his name, you will see that Exper1ence is still commenting.
Those were trolls.
Ehh, so is eXPer1ence dead or was that
just a bad joke?
I have used Tiny Xp for years and have
MicoXP on an older laptop with an SSD.
So fast to start thats its almost instant on. :)
Really love the Tiny versions and use them all the time for VMWARE guests are they are so much lighter.
Exper1ence is very much alive and well. and he does not own a computer repair shop in the UK.
He has not finished working with 7, because it is out of his budget. He has a life to support rather than upgrade a computer that can run seven. which of course seeing HIM write that in his own forum, was boggling to me. Considering the entire purpose of of tiny 7 and all.
Tiny vista IMHO is just as good as Tiny XP. Except it has the vista doom name.
Thx TruXter.
Nice to hear he did not die.
I respect he will not make a new tiny 7 even it also makes me sad as I truely loved his XP tiny versions.
But maybe I should just try the vista version as it seems nice too.
So Very light for a Vista.:)
On the other hand, I just upgraded to a i7-2600K@4.9 Ghz and 16GB ram with a hyperx ssd so the need for tiny is perhaps just in my head.
It is just I used Tiny Xp on my old core 2 6400 4gb and played newer games like BF3 and the like on medium settings so I feel Tiny is the BEST Windows I ever used.
So thats why i kinda crave for a win 7 version. But I do understand that he has a life and gain nothing from the many hours it takes to make it tiny.
Best Regards
i found someone doing computer repair in that area of town (link omitted)
i hope experience didnt die
what is his forum?
He did not die
He lacks funds to run a machine that can test and edit 7.
and that my friends is the problem with today’s over certification standards. He is a great coder. His hobby is loved by many and useful to all who like his works. But he is under funded and will never be likely to see his efforts put to anything that will be useful to everyone. and he might have had his climax in his abilities.
Meanwhile, somewhere their is some kid in a course in some 400,000 a year tuition fee school, that he is using just to get allowances from his father for a bit longer who has zero understanding or interest for the work, who will some day do something not even 1/100th of a percent as impressive as what Exper1ence has done (alone I might add), and will be written off as a hero of our time for inventing a sheep throwing app. and this kid will go on to make $4b to add to his $600b trust fund.
Much like sports and boxing. Only the rich and the unemployed have time to practice, make the appearances, etc. Just being unemployed, you also have to be a stereotype of trials and tribulation and you will get sponsored much much faster. Everyone wants a back story. Some are easier with the eye.
And yes it does relate. It puts Exper1ence in middle class at his time when he probably had his best chance.
I will quash this debate once and for all.:
TruXter has absolutely no idea of what he is rambling on about, he just likes to hear himself talk. Tiny 7 IS a full blown Microsoft operating system, and a very nice one at that. It is illegal for you to use, if you don’t have a license for it. If you do have a license for it, well then you are free to modify and customise your installation at will. That means that YES, you may remove drivers and services of your choosing, without ANY LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.
Now, as for exper1ence; he is very employable. In fact we liked his mods so much, that we using them in some of our Windows8 releases. Guess who is heading up that project. You guessed it: exper1ence.
Now please solicit your misinformation elsewhere; it is illegal for you to solicit misinformation on the web, just like Tiny7 is not a Microsoft operating system.
lol
Someone has never read the EULA.
Please. I understand your desire to be the smartest I.T. guy. All do that.
but you do not have to be rude.
now please go re-read 4th-7th line again. If you do not feel like scrolling up that far.
The illegal part is distributing something that must be paid for.
Or we could just get the Last Session.Ini and distribute it. Problem solved
I personally think that this Bill Gates guy is pretty funny :)
But you don’t lie. Calling himself Gates and claiming that his site is microsoft.com/ (Omitting the “www.” I might add) is one thing, but actually saying that eXPer1ence is heading a Microsoft division… That’s just playing on our hopes. That’s simply not nice.
I’ve tried Tiny 7 on a VM and it works great for what I need it to do. I was so impressed on how it worked I began to Google more about it and landed here..
Back in the XP Days I had used nLite to strip down XP to as much as I dared. It also worked great.
I have looked around for compatible methods for Windows 7. RT7 lite, and WinToolkit looked promising but my first few attempts with RT 7 Lite has failed to get anywhere near the recourse size as Tiny 7. However Experience did it is just brilliance. Why I ever thought I could improve on it?
“Recognizing one’s own incompetence” is a book not only I have to read and finish, but some others that have posted on here will more so…
The TinyWins shine in virtual machines. On an i7 with 8GB you can give a single core and 512MB to a Win95 install, barely dent your performance, and see how W95 absolutely SCREAMS on a modern processor. TinyXP blazes. You can use multiple cores, but the performance upgrade on such a fast CPU mostly makes it overkill. I use a single core, TinyXP, 1.5GB setup to run SAM radio broadcast software, which doesn’t support Windows 8, in a Virtualbox on a Win8 machine. Even running and streaming constantly, I only notice its running if I want to run it through the speakers on my own system so that I have to consider other audio card use. Or I can just open the streaming link in VLC and listen to it that way.
VMs are a great use for the Tinys.
Personally, I’ve switched to Ubuntu Linux, yet I have access to every version of Windows I’ve ever owned, right from my Ubuntu desktop. I just restored the Ghost backups of the all of my old OS’s final decommission state into virtual machines. With the cheap state of hard drive space, I opened them all, then just closed them with saved states. I can open any one of them, (or several up to my available RAM), in under 10 seconds. I usually run a standalone Linux LAMP server in a VM to keep my database access out of my production machine’s way. It’s already sequestered the RAM and the core when I opened the virtual machine, so it’s pretty much steady state.